Post: Tell me how Second Chance is any better than Juggernaut
12-16-2010, 03:09 AM #1
tdga7x
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Juggernaut:


  • Takes one extra bullet to kill
  • Could still one-shot someone with Jugs with a shot to the neck/chest
  • Forced you to sacrifice Stopping Power, one of the most important perks in CoD4/WaW
  • Took up a very important perk slot


Second Chance:


  • Takes one extra bullet to kill, after the enemy falls to the ground
  • Has frames of invincibility (where you can't kill them as they're falling to the ground)
  • The enemy is able to shoot or knife you while they're falling, while your bullets do nothing during that period of time
  • Impossible to one-shot someone with a sniper rifle unless it's a headshot
  • Doesn't suffer any gun damage loss, since Stopping Power was taken out of the game
  • Takes up perk slot 3, which in my opinion is the least important perk slot
  • Can be revived by people without Second Chance, which takes only one second


So why was Juggernaut taken out so early in the franchise while Treyarch decides to keep in Second Chance (which was bad enough, before they decided to make it even more frustrating)? Something needs to happen soon.
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12-16-2010, 04:12 AM #2
ThisIsBio
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iTz probably because JD 2020 is a b**** and wants to piss off the community. Or because they wanted to keep a n00b perk in the game.

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12-16-2010, 04:19 AM #3
ResistTheSun
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Originally posted by tdga7x View Post
Let's compare CoD4 + WaW's Juggernaut to Black Ops' Second Chance.

Juggernaut:


  • Takes one extra bullet to kill
  • Could still one-shot someone with Jugs with a shot to the neck/chest
  • Forced you to sacrifice Stopping Power, one of the most important perks in CoD4/WaW
  • Took up a very important perk slot


Second Chance:


  • Takes one extra bullet to kill, after the enemy falls to the ground
  • Has frames of invincibility (where you can't kill them as they're falling to the ground)
  • The enemy is able to shoot or knife you while they're falling, while your bullets do nothing during that period of time
  • Impossible to one-shot someone with a sniper rifle unless it's a headshot
  • Doesn't suffer any gun damage loss, since Stopping Power was taken out of the game
  • Takes up perk slot 3, which in my opinion is the least important perk slot
  • Can be revived by people without Second Chance, which takes only one second


So why was Juggernaut taken out so early in the franchise while Treyarch decides to keep in Second Chance (which was bad enough, before they decided to make it even more frustrating)? Something needs to happen soon.


"The enemy is able to shoot or knife you while they're falling, while your bullets do nothing during that period of time" tht not true.....you have to wait till you get your gun out. Which is when you hit the floor.
Same with the knife i believe.

Only time it unfair is when the user has a lag switch on but then same thing about knife.

Tbh i think most of the complains would go away if you got the kill if you did the most damage.
12-16-2010, 04:25 AM #4
Yea, i don't get the whole second chance perk, I mean if you get out gunned, you should die, not get chance to get a lucky kill.

Treyarch just kept it to satisfy all the noobies.
12-16-2010, 04:26 AM #5
tdga7x
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Originally posted by ResistTheSun View Post
"The enemy is able to shoot or knife you while they're falling, while your bullets do nothing during that period of time" tht not true.....you have to wait till you get your gun out. Which is when you hit the floor.
Same with the knife i believe.

Only time it unfair is when the user has a lag switch on but then same thing about knife.

Tbh i think most of the complains would go away if you got the kill if you did the most damage.


Wrong, I've experienced this many times, and I've watched the killcams almost every time. I've even seen them kill me with their primary as they're falling. It's bullshit.
12-16-2010, 04:35 AM #6
ResistTheSun
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Originally posted by elsoadfan View Post
Yea, i don't get the whole second chance perk, I mean if you get out gunned, you should die, not get chance to get a lucky kill.

Treyarch just kept it to satisfy all the noobies.
If you think that noob like you should also think drop shotting the same used by noobs.

Tbh i think most of the hate towards it not getting a kill if you did most of the damage. Easy fix should not be removed.

---------- Post added at 11:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:27 PM ----------

Originally posted by tdga7x View Post
Wrong, I've experienced this many times, and I've watched the killcams almost every time. I've even seen them kill me with their primary as they're falling. It's bullshit.
As a COD player you must know the following facts.

COD has serious latency issues at times
Killcam lies
Due to the latency issues it makes stuff look different to how it is. Good example is the knife how it appears to teleport.

I tried it myself not when falling it only once you hit the floor. And that was local did the same thing online with a friend had latency issues.
So appears i could fire before i hit the ground.

Also if am wrong then go edit COD wiki tell the admin he got it wrong.
12-16-2010, 04:46 AM #7
Originally posted by ResistTheSun View Post
If you think that noob like you should also think drop shotting the same used by noobs.

Tbh i think most of the hate towards it not getting a kill if you did most of the damage. Easy fix should not be removed.


So obviously you're one of those users sorry if it offended you.... but nah, you can't compare drop shotting with second chance.
but I mainly get pissed at second chance users because they should be dead already and just cuz some nooby perk they are still alive. I still get the kill but with more effort.
12-16-2010, 04:51 AM #8
If they were going to remove anything they should have removed this dumb Last Stand perk. Juggernaut was annoying, yes. But I would rather them have kept Juggernaut and removed Pussy Stand.
12-16-2010, 04:55 AM #9
tdga7x
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Originally posted by ResistTheSun View Post
As a COD player you must know the following facts.

COD has serious latency issues at times
Killcam lies
Due to the latency issues it makes stuff look different to how it is. Good example is the knife how it appears to teleport.

I tried it myself not when falling it only once you hit the floor. And that was local did the same thing online with a friend had latency issues.
So appears i could fire before i hit the ground.

Also if am wrong then go edit COD wiki tell the admin he got it wrong.


Well if CoD has such bad latency issues, why do they give people abilities that take advantage of that? Latency issue or not, I got killed because I couldn't kill him during the invincibility frame, which is the moment I got shot. My bullets didn't effect him, but his effected me, and I run a 4 bar connection. Whether it's a problem with the perk or the game, they have to fix it.
12-16-2010, 04:57 AM #10
Tree
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Try and abuse it to your favor so more people can complain. Then maybe they will give a shit once they actually get pissed off at it. Stupid 3arc!

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