Post: IW has taken a step back in the Call of duty series
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12-18-2011, 03:35 PM
#1
MagesticTiger
Mario!
What iW has to do is make a complete new engine. Base it off the cod 4 engine, but completely remodel it. One of the main reasons Mw3 feels like playing Mw2 is because they play off of almost the exact same engine. I would like it if not only did IW take aspects from their games, but take it from treyarchs as well. I know they have to some extent but..... It would be more beneficial to try things out then too not.
Next off, they really need to rethink how the game should play. In Mw2 when someone camped, I knew I could easily pick them off in the open. But in MW3, the maps are to tight with too many corners, If I were to try and pick him Off i would likely get killed. Bring Maps back like wasteland and afgan, I enjoyed those maps very much and campers weren't much of a threat to me, it was almost stupid the camp on maps like these.
For the love of god please fix the servers once and for all. I cant remember when there wasn't lag in my game, get's me killed all of the time.
Well that's my rant. I like Mw3 very much, but I find myself raging all of the time while playing it.:FU:
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12-26-2011, 02:58 PM
#56
Dexla
Brute
There will always be something to complain about. When it comes to video games like this, they won't be able to please EVERYONE. MW2 had most people in love with it, so I don't see such an issue with them re-using the engine; it's still fun, they add new guns, features, elite, and the new dlc stuff which will come later.
12-26-2011, 06:02 PM
#57
Porter_Justice
Cake is a lie
Yeah plus as gamers we need to realize we may be more critical but in reality COD is far from going down.
I'm not saying the game selling like crazy speaks to it's quality but we can't just ignore how many people buy and play this game just because we don't like certain things. Majority complain daily but still play it so MW3 is great as far as sells go and that's what IW cares about.
I'm not saying the game selling like crazy speaks to it's quality but we can't just ignore how many people buy and play this game just because we don't like certain things. Majority complain daily but still play it so MW3 is great as far as sells go and that's what IW cares about.
12-26-2011, 06:18 PM
#58
ELDove
Grunt
Originally posted by ResistTheSun
First part of your post is quite weak.....
Does not explain the problem or explain anything
The last part is quite interesting and something which needs to be addressed.
COD maps are designed for defensive play styles in mind. Alot of lines of sights on one spot / area allowing somebody to move for each area and rank up the kills.
Something which has got worse as the series goes on..........
Camping a playstyle but when the maps allow a person to camp and do well you got a problem. I know alot of people are about to say "stop complaining about camping" , no it a problem.
It is a problem.....where the skill when i can camp a couple lines of sight and go 100-5 ?
It also kills aggressive playstyles or out smarting people when it comes down who has the line of sight.
It quite interesting that if you look at the maps some of them follow black ops style of design. 3 lanes of traffic and power positions which change based where people are. Other maps follow MW2 style of design of hard corners and head glitching. With not many power positions.
Some of the maps give alot of cover to the B flag on dom others not so much.
You sort of get the feeling........they wanted each map to play different to each other. Or that another dev team took over
MW3 runs off the COD4 engine. Just been changed over the years to suit MW3. Black ops also runs off the COD4 engine just again changed to suit black ops.
Engine alone is not enough to how a game feels.....other factors like how fast the player moves etc
MW3 has taken a couple steps forward and some back in terms of weapon balance. Almost all weapons can be used some are outclassed and weak as hell cough shotguns.
Taken step forwards with sound design i can hear people YAY........but then no counter to dead silence.
Backwards with the unlock system.........over black ops. Where i could pick whatever whenever. Also gone backwards on the spawns and netcode.
Just go back to the COD4 netcode patch the QOS so EU players don't get screwed and add in region lock problem solved. Or MW2 netcode.
IW and trey are two very different styles when it comes to game design.
Does not explain the problem or explain anything
The last part is quite interesting and something which needs to be addressed.
COD maps are designed for defensive play styles in mind. Alot of lines of sights on one spot / area allowing somebody to move for each area and rank up the kills.
Something which has got worse as the series goes on..........
Camping a playstyle but when the maps allow a person to camp and do well you got a problem. I know alot of people are about to say "stop complaining about camping" , no it a problem.
It is a problem.....where the skill when i can camp a couple lines of sight and go 100-5 ?
It also kills aggressive playstyles or out smarting people when it comes down who has the line of sight.
It quite interesting that if you look at the maps some of them follow black ops style of design. 3 lanes of traffic and power positions which change based where people are. Other maps follow MW2 style of design of hard corners and head glitching. With not many power positions.
Some of the maps give alot of cover to the B flag on dom others not so much.
You sort of get the feeling........they wanted each map to play different to each other. Or that another dev team took over
MW3 runs off the COD4 engine. Just been changed over the years to suit MW3. Black ops also runs off the COD4 engine just again changed to suit black ops.
Engine alone is not enough to how a game feels.....other factors like how fast the player moves etc
MW3 has taken a couple steps forward and some back in terms of weapon balance. Almost all weapons can be used some are outclassed and weak as hell cough shotguns.
Taken step forwards with sound design i can hear people YAY........but then no counter to dead silence.
Backwards with the unlock system.........over black ops. Where i could pick whatever whenever. Also gone backwards on the spawns and netcode.
Just go back to the COD4 netcode patch the QOS so EU players don't get screwed and add in region lock problem solved. Or MW2 netcode.
IW and trey are two very different styles when it comes to game design.
hmmmm.... sounds like trolling
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12-26-2011, 06:25 PM
#59
Ameht!
Dark Knight
Originally posted by hahaNO
I agree with the Maps thing. Sniping is no fun when everybody is running around with rapid fire sub machine guns and akimbo FMGs.
C0d has never been a sniper's game that's why kid and tards in the cod community take to quickscoping. This series is just horrible . Mw3 worst game in 2011 hands down
12-26-2011, 10:22 PM
#60
Porter_Justice
Cake is a lie
Originally posted by psameht
C0d has never been a sniper's game that's why kid and tards in the cod community take to quickscoping. This series is just horrible . Mw3 worst game in 2011 hands down
You must've never played many games. What prestige are you? Third? haha :carling:
I agree with Sniping but it's a result of COD community's obsession with calling people campers and bad game mechanics that resulted in quick scoping.
COD community has convinced themselves a guy Sniping on a map like Afgan or Wasteland bad and they should run around with a Intervention like it's an SMG.
Oh and even if they run around with the Sniper they better not "hardscope"... It's pathetic. I don't ever Snipe but if I did I'm not running around with it like I would with MP7. It's a Sniper rifle it has a different purpose than every other type of weapon class.
The COD community is actually worse than the games themselves....
12-27-2011, 03:26 PM
#61
Ameht!
Dark Knight
Originally posted by Justice
You must've never played many games. What prestige are you? Third? haha :carling:
I agree with Sniping but it's a result of COD community's obsession with calling people campers and bad game mechanics that resulted in quick scoping.
COD community has convinced themselves a guy Sniping on a map like Afgan or Wasteland bad and they should run around with a Intervention like it's an SMG.
Oh and even if they run around with the Sniper they better not "hardscope"... It's pathetic. I don't ever Snipe but if I did I'm not running around with it like I would with MP7. It's a Sniper rifle it has a different purpose than every other type of weapon class.
The COD community is actually worse than the games themselves....
I agree with Sniping but it's a result of COD community's obsession with calling people campers and bad game mechanics that resulted in quick scoping.
COD community has convinced themselves a guy Sniping on a map like Afgan or Wasteland bad and they should run around with a Intervention like it's an SMG.
Oh and even if they run around with the Sniper they better not "hardscope"... It's pathetic. I don't ever Snipe but if I did I'm not running around with it like I would with MP7. It's a Sniper rifle it has a different purpose than every other type of weapon class.
The COD community is actually worse than the games themselves....
Not even 1st prestige on Mw3
Game is Horrible , I stopped playing weeks ago I agree with Everything you posted Porter except for the many games part :carling: I'm a Gamer !!
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