Post: Sexuality
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10-16-2011, 04:46 PM
#1
Anyway, onto the debate itself- sexuality. There are many different labels of sexuality, so I'd thought I'd list them below(largely C/P to save time, if I missed any or falsely described anything let me know):
- Heterosexuality- Is the sexual attraction between members of the opposite sexes such as a man attracted to a woman and vice-versa.
- Homosexuality- is the sexual attraction between members of the same sexes such as man to man and woman to woman.
- Bisexuality- Is the sexual attraction to both the opposite and same sexes such as man to man and man to woman, woman to woman and woman to man.
- Asexuality- Is also known as nonsexuality which is the lack of sexual attraction and sexual interest towards others.
- Polysexuality- Is the sexual attraction to more than one gender but do not wish to be known as bisexual as it implies that there are only two binary sexes, do not confuse this with pansexuality ('pan' meaning all) and ('poly' meaning many).
- Pansexuality- Is the sexual attraction towards people regardless of gender also known as omnisexuality. Some pansexuals refer to themselves as gender blind as to them gender is insignificant in determining whether they will be sexually attracted to others.
- Transexualism- Is when a person identifies themselves as a certain sex different from their own biological one. For example a person may be born male, and is uncomfortable with their gender as a male and changes to a female, or vice-versa.
Personally I'm heterosexual, however I have no problems with other people expressing their own sexuality and being who they really are.
Feel free to comment below and be honest, then hopefully this thread can be used to maturely discuss sexuality away from the nonsense you so often see elsewhere
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12-25-2011, 04:52 PM
#47
JimErased's Best Pal
Banned
Originally posted by TornadoCreator
I'm glad you got a giggle out of it... I'm still traumatised by the idea of someone fúcking puppies myself, but if the scarring of my mental landscape causes some laughter I'm sure it's worth it. *twitch*
I think what people have to remember is being gay is like living in a minefield. You can't really date or even flirt because most people are straight. On average it's 10% of the population that's gay, in some places like Los Angeles and New Orleans it's higher, about 14%, but in other areas like New York it's only about 8% and in Philidelphia (despite the film), it's only 3% of people. The only way for gay people to reliably be able to identify eachother is with broad trending. Just like how punks can identify punk and goths can identify goths due to their fashion trends, by having the camp fashion trend be a symbol for homosexuality it acts as a way for gay people to identify eachother and feel safer pursuing relationships. Remember, most people get offended if gay people come on to them, even people here have said that's the line they don't want crossed... without this stereotype gay people would have to play pot luck on trying it on with random people, with only a 1/10 or less chance of finding a gay guy, and then there's the chance they just don't like you, etc. (after all, not every woman likes every guy, so not every gay guy likes every other gay guy).
I hate the camp fashion trend, I find it overly sexualised, very non-masculine and thus bloody hypocritical, and gratingly irritating... but it serves a purpose unfortunately and until the homophobes of the world feel comfortable enough to just say, "Oh, I'm flattered, but I'm straight... Sorry", it'll probably not go away.
I think what people have to remember is being gay is like living in a minefield. You can't really date or even flirt because most people are straight. On average it's 10% of the population that's gay, in some places like Los Angeles and New Orleans it's higher, about 14%, but in other areas like New York it's only about 8% and in Philidelphia (despite the film), it's only 3% of people. The only way for gay people to reliably be able to identify eachother is with broad trending. Just like how punks can identify punk and goths can identify goths due to their fashion trends, by having the camp fashion trend be a symbol for homosexuality it acts as a way for gay people to identify eachother and feel safer pursuing relationships. Remember, most people get offended if gay people come on to them, even people here have said that's the line they don't want crossed... without this stereotype gay people would have to play pot luck on trying it on with random people, with only a 1/10 or less chance of finding a gay guy, and then there's the chance they just don't like you, etc. (after all, not every woman likes every guy, so not every gay guy likes every other gay guy).
I hate the camp fashion trend, I find it overly sexualised, very non-masculine and thus bloody hypocritical, and gratingly irritating... but it serves a purpose unfortunately and until the homophobes of the world feel comfortable enough to just say, "Oh, I'm flattered, but I'm straight... Sorry", it'll probably not go away.
Good post. :y: I just hate how there's so many guys out there that are homophobic because they think every gay man wan'ts to sleep with them. I personally find it pathetic that some people judge people based on there race/sexuality.
12-25-2011, 06:12 PM
#48
schaffinosx
To and fro the island.
I'm not going to comment on interspecies sexuality, but as a heterosexual, I see nothing wrong with homosexuals. To be honest, sometimes I can get a bit homophobic when I see some of the more extreme cases, but it's not because I'm appalled by the person, simply not used to that kind of behavior and lifestyle. I think making laws to outlaw homosexuality is outrageous, and simply unnecessary. Trying to stop something like this is virtually impossible, and trying to do so is an attempt bound to fail.
I think society is moving forward in recognizing homosexuals for the mere reason that it is society taking a practical standpoint. Society has held prejudices for along time, and slowly, we've been giving them up one by one. I think it's a good step forward for humanity and society alike.
I think society is moving forward in recognizing homosexuals for the mere reason that it is society taking a practical standpoint. Society has held prejudices for along time, and slowly, we've been giving them up one by one. I think it's a good step forward for humanity and society alike.
12-26-2011, 03:24 AM
#49
Budz
Former Staff
HeteroSexual right here. Bringing religion into this, i think that in logical sense and what actually makes sense to me is that people shouldn't be haveing sex together except if they are the opposite sex. This in my head makes reason because if you think about it, God created the penis and the vagina in the same spot exactly on both sexes. The alignment of how male and female have sex is perfect and there isn't anything wrong with it. But when you bring in 2 men or 2 women, this is where it gets awkward and doesn't make sense. When two women have sex they can't have orgasms due to both of them having the same genitalia. The only way two men could have sex is by anal sex which is honestly a horrific and disgusting thing for both sides. Anal sex does hurt, why do something that effects you in a bad way sexually.
12-26-2011, 07:56 AM
#50
TornadoCreator
A Storm Approaches.
Originally posted by Budz
HeteroSexual right here. Bringing religion into this, i think that in logical sense and what actually makes sense to me is that people shouldn't be haveing sex together except if they are the opposite sex. This in my head makes reason because if you think about it, God created the penis and the vagina in the same spot exactly on both sexes. The alignment of how male and female have sex is perfect and there isn't anything wrong with it. But when you bring in 2 men or 2 women, this is where it gets awkward and doesn't make sense. When two women have sex they can't have orgasms due to both of them having the same genitalia. The only way two men could have sex is by anal sex which is honestly a horrific and disgusting thing for both sides. Anal sex does hurt, why do something that effects you in a bad way sexually.
I will agree that gay sex isn't biologically viable. We are biologically suited towards heterosexuality, and homosexuality is a departure from the norm, but that doesn't make it wrong. As for two women not having orgasms, honestly you have a very naive look at sex. There are ways for them to stimulate eachother. As for anal sex, I agree it's unpleasant and unhygienic, but straight couples do it a lot too. Men having anal sex with women is common-place and in USA it's often peceived as a "treat" for the man because it's apparently better. Watch any explicit comedy and when women are trying to bribe men with sex the last thing they offer is always anal sex as though it's a rare and special treat. I personally don't get it myself, there's a perfectly good vagina right there. Still... it's not a matter of what I want. It's personal choice.
The fact is, sexuality isn't a matter of what's biologically intended (whether designed by a God or not), it's a matter of personal freedom. Shouldn't gay people have the right to do whatever they want with their genitals? They're hurting no-one, so why should it matter? This is liberty and to argue against it, especially religiously is to argue for limiting freedom. I'm not saying you have to like it, you're not going to be made to take part or anything, but other people should be allowed to do what they want with eachother if they choose to... do you not agree?
12-26-2011, 08:18 AM
#51
Kaspa
MUDAMUDAMUDA!!!
Originally posted by Budz
HeteroSexual right here. Bringing religion into this, i think that in logical sense and what actually makes sense to me is that people shouldn't be haveing sex together except if they are the opposite sex. This in my head makes reason because if you think about it, God created the penis and the vagina in the same spot exactly on both sexes.
Just launched my head at the wall after reading that, sorry if my post isn't up to par.
Originally posted by Budz
in the same spot exactly on both sexes.
What kind of point is that? 'God' has also created nipples in the same place on both sexes, you don't see people running around rubbing nipples simply because "It's in the same spot on both sexes".
Originally posted by Budz
When two women have sex they can't have orgasms due to both of them having the same genitalia.
No it isn't because they have the same genitals, it's because they don't function together. They can go buy a dildo or put sticks in each-others vagina though, and that results in orgasms.
Originally posted by Budz
The only way two men could have sex is by anal sex which is honestly a horrific and disgusting thing for both sides. Anal sex does hurt, why do something that effects you in a bad way sexually.
I love this comment, you're clearly some poor kid raised on religion and you speak as if you've experienced it. Did your parents tell you that as a child? "don't put your willy in boys bum-holes because it hurts."
Who are you to say it's horrific for both sides? I mean, I haven't experienced a dick in the ass but I can't imagine it being that bad. I can imagine it being nice for the giver though.
Why is it disgusting? because your little book tells you it's wrong?
12-26-2011, 09:02 AM
#52
TornadoCreator
A Storm Approaches.
Originally posted by Kaspa
Who are you to say it's horrific for both sides? I mean, I haven't experienced a dick in the ass but I can't imagine it being that bad. I can imagine it being nice for the giver though.
Actually, that's the interesting little bit of poetic irony. Because of the placing of the prostate the male g-spot, the most sensitive part of the male body is actually in the upper wall of the anus which means anal sex gives the most powerful intense orgasms for men...
12-26-2011, 04:07 PM
#53
Budz
Former Staff
Originally posted by Kaspa
Just launched my head at the wall after reading that, sorry if my post isn't up to par.
What kind of point is that? 'God' has also created nipples in the same place on both sexes, you don't see people running around rubbing nipples simply because "It's in the same spot on both sexes".
No it isn't because they have the same genitals, it's because they don't function together. They can go buy a dildo or put sticks in each-others vagina though, and that results in orgasms.
I love this comment, you're clearly some poor kid raised on religion and you speak as if you've experienced it. Did your parents tell you that as a child? "don't put your willy in boys bum-holes because it hurts."
Who are you to say it's horrific for both sides? I mean, I haven't experienced a dick in the ass but I can't imagine it being that bad. I can imagine it being nice for the giver though.
Why is it disgusting? because your little book tells you it's wrong?
What kind of point is that? 'God' has also created nipples in the same place on both sexes, you don't see people running around rubbing nipples simply because "It's in the same spot on both sexes".
No it isn't because they have the same genitals, it's because they don't function together. They can go buy a dildo or put sticks in each-others vagina though, and that results in orgasms.
I love this comment, you're clearly some poor kid raised on religion and you speak as if you've experienced it. Did your parents tell you that as a child? "don't put your willy in boys bum-holes because it hurts."
Who are you to say it's horrific for both sides? I mean, I haven't experienced a dick in the ass but I can't imagine it being that bad. I can imagine it being nice for the giver though.
Why is it disgusting? because your little book tells you it's wrong?
I don't think when when rubbing nipples against each other produces anything
While a Penis and Vagina produce a new human being.Putting Sticks and dildos into each other isn't called "sex" Sex is when a male and female have intercourse. Dildos and Sticks is masturbation.
Telling me that i was raised incorrectly is really ironic since you just talked about "willy bum" proves you aren't really mature.
My "book" didn't say Gays shall be killed or anything, it actually says that they should be left and God would punish them.
FYI...when gays have sex, they look like dogs. In my "book" dogs bring dirtiness (something related to dirtiness, can't translate it) into houses.
12-26-2011, 05:52 PM
#54
TornadoCreator
A Storm Approaches.
Originally posted by Budz
I don't think when when rubbing nipples against each other produces anything While a Penis and Vagina produce a new human being.
Putting Sticks and dildos into each other isn't called "sex" Sex is when a male and female have intercourse. Dildos and Sticks is masturbation.
Telling me that i was raised incorrectly is really ironic since you just talked about "willy bum" proves you aren't really mature.
My "book" didn't say Gays shall be killed or anything, it actually says that they should be left and God would punish them.
FYI...when gays have sex, they look like dogs. In my "book" dogs bring dirtiness (something related to dirtiness, can't translate it) into houses.
While a Penis and Vagina produce a new human being.Putting Sticks and dildos into each other isn't called "sex" Sex is when a male and female have intercourse. Dildos and Sticks is masturbation.
Telling me that i was raised incorrectly is really ironic since you just talked about "willy bum" proves you aren't really mature.
My "book" didn't say Gays shall be killed or anything, it actually says that they should be left and God would punish them.
FYI...when gays have sex, they look like dogs. In my "book" dogs bring dirtiness (something related to dirtiness, can't translate it) into houses.
As I've said before, your book DOES say Gays should be put to death, I've read it. As for the dogs being unclean issue and you comparing gay people to dogs, that's nothing but homophobic hatred seeping though, a sign that you've never had sex (doggy style works for straight couples too you fool), and another indication of the idiotic rules in Islam. Dogs are unclean? Grow up...
Now I've been extremely patient with you as you seem very open minded and progressive considering where you live, but you're quickly trying my patience now. Be honest. Have some decency or integrity or you'll start seeing the same disrespect I give the theists from USA, UK, Ireland etc who don't have the excuse that they grew up in the moral cess-pool that is Egypt, and don't you dare defend your country, I've only just finished quoting the lack of rights women, gays and apostates get in the God vs. Fact thread. Egypt sickens me quite frankly, and knowing you've grown up with constant religious government brainwashing is the reason I'm as patient as I am with you.
12-26-2011, 10:42 PM
#55
Budz
Former Staff
Originally posted by TornadoCreator
As I've said before, your book DOES say Gays should be put to death, I've read it. As for the dogs being unclean issue and you comparing gay people to dogs, that's nothing but homophobic hatred seeping though, a sign that you've never had sex (doggy style works for straight couples too you fool), and another indication of the idiotic rules in Islam. Dogs are unclean? Grow up...
Now I've been extremely patient with you as you seem very open minded and progressive considering where you live, but you're quickly trying my patience now. Be honest. Have some decency or integrity or you'll start seeing the same disrespect I give the theists from USA, UK, Ireland etc who don't have the excuse that they grew up in the moral cess-pool that is Egypt, and don't you dare defend your country, I've only just finished quoting the lack of rights women, gays and apostates get in the God vs. Fact thread. Egypt sickens me quite frankly, and knowing you've grown up with constant religious government brainwashing is the reason I'm as patient as I am with you.
Now I've been extremely patient with you as you seem very open minded and progressive considering where you live, but you're quickly trying my patience now. Be honest. Have some decency or integrity or you'll start seeing the same disrespect I give the theists from USA, UK, Ireland etc who don't have the excuse that they grew up in the moral cess-pool that is Egypt, and don't you dare defend your country, I've only just finished quoting the lack of rights women, gays and apostates get in the God vs. Fact thread. Egypt sickens me quite frankly, and knowing you've grown up with constant religious government brainwashing is the reason I'm as patient as I am with you.
You keep comparing the government with religion. All you're doing is actually brainwashing us out of our religion is what i see. Egypt is a horrible and a nice country at the same time. Doggy style is anal btw
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