(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Philosophy is the one subject at school I think I will do well in (I cover religious studies at the moment next year I start philosophy) and many people have differing opinions on it, my dad thinks it is a waste of time as it is just bullshiting to him. I personally love it, asking questions with no answer and coming to your own conclusion, having an understanding of something that can be so different to how the person next to you perceives things.

Quotes such as "I think therefore I am" which require some thought to understand and grasp, being able to show an understanding of what may or may not be a greater world.

It is just something I love to do and wanted to get others opinions on the subject it self and if anyone here has ever studied it.

That's exactly what I hate about a lot of philosophy. You waste time thinking about untestable questions whose unfalsifiable answers will have no impact on anything.

Honestly I think that Philosophy is interesting, but it shouldn't be a topic to focus on in school. While it is interesting you should probably be diverting more of school time to subjects like math and science, english and other business or law courses that are truly going to contribute to your future. But hey, if Philosophy is the only thing you like and you wish to peruse it, go for it

My favorite classes in school were the ones where I got to leave early because we had a game...

I do not think, therefore I am not?

Yeah I studied it, ask your lecturer if you can watch The Matrix because it explains the Plato's Cave analogy.

You have thought of this therefore you must be



Not a bad opinion to have on it and I see why you do, but I prefer the questions like why we are here and purpose, they are what interest me just because I feel so worthless all the time, if I can do anything to feel I have self worth I do it, I just find the subject stimulating and I enjoy it.

The problem with those questions is that they're immediately followed by "what do you mean by 'why(?)'" or "define 'purpose.'" The question "what is our purpose(?)" is ill-defined. As such, you can make up any nonsensical answer and it will be just a valid as any other. You don't (and can't even in principle) ever learn anything from pondering this stuff. You miss out on the wonderful feeling that you get when you really understand something.



There's no harm in that. If you enjoy something, then by all means do it. But realize that it's probably no more productive than any other hobby.

Well, arguing about religion in a Philosophy class is a very touchy thing to do, generally speaking when you want to get to know a person do you ask them for their religious beliefs right off the bat first and foremost? Or do you ask them what they are interested in? Before you respond, know that asking for a person's religious beliefs is like asking for a grenade up the ass, something bad will happen whether you want it to or not. Arguing about it will cause some strain, but its always interesting to talk about if your into that sort of thing... you do have people who research religion... even though i personally think its a waste of time, its just a bunch of people arguing over nonsense in their minds when their actual actions don't represent their beliefs... in other words fraudulent believers- in other words fraudulent beliefs. Kind of like those people who say "Oh god is good when luck is on my side!- God hates me today! I must have sinned! etc etc" Using religion as a scapegoat for their actions, hate people like that.



Thats a good joke, but uh Religion=/=Philosophy, those are two completely different things that i think you misunderstand. A lot of philosophy is required to solve many important world problems, its not simply an excercise of coming to a stop in conclusions, solutions can be created through simply thinking about them, but a simple basis for any Philosopher would be to not waste his/her time with fruitless things like religion, because yes your going to be there all day thinking "Hey is my god real/not real, or is his god real/not real?" Instead of arguing about that, try having a discussion about how to minimize criminal activity in your area, thats a more hands on subject to use.

So yes Philosophy has very good uses that have very good intentions when used correctly. Or even incorrectly.

I don't remember ever bringing up religion, actually. The only mention of religion up until now was how Mr. Kane was taking a religious studies class.



Really? Name one.



Actually no, they can't. Any well-defined theory must be compared to experiment to evaluate its validity. If a theory disagrees with experiment then it's wrong. It doesn't matter how smart the person is who came up with it, or what his name is, etc. If it disagrees with experiment then it's wrong. An unprecise theory, for example "A more or less does B, which can sorta kinda do C," is ill-defined, and as such is unfalsifiable. It can't be proven wrong because it has no predictive power whatever.



Right. I completely agree.



That's called sociology, which employs the scientific method. If a well-defined theory in sociology makes predictions that agree with experiment, then it's obviously a good idea to use said theory. Pure Philosophy, by definition, is the attempt to understand nature by pure thought alone. Failure to compare philosophical ideas to experiment leads to the nonsense like "heavier objects fall faster than lighter objects" which nobody bothered to question for a few hundred years after Aristotle said it.

You might argue that "we're dealing with terms that can't be so precisely defined." Right! But then you can't claim to know anything about it.



Good intentions I don't doubt. But its ability to produce useful knowledge is null.

I find I do understand things though, it makes me see life in a way I didn't know of really. Since December 17th I have been at a low point in my life and see most things in a rather dark way, I like to ponder our existence, purpose, a greater power (I don't believe in a God but there has to be some sort of cause to us) it is a way for me to give myself meaning as I feel I need it now more than ever and I am still just in school. I sort of see your view just like I think you see mine but they are on such opposite spectrums it is hard for me to understand it completely