Post: PS4 Jailbreak: the status in 2015
03-14-2015, 10:58 AM #1
wajdi9
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First of all I’ll shortcut the people who’ll say the word “jailbreak” does not apply for anything else than an iPhone: rules of a language evolve as people use it, and it seems jailbreak is a popular term, if not among hackers, at least among users, to talk about things as various as PS4 hacks, exploits, custom firmwares, or piracy dongles.

Although we try to regularly shut down the rumors, it seems there exists a business in pretending the PS4 has been hacked. A few websites with low self esteem have made it their business to attract clicks by pretending a massive PS4 “jailbreak” or hack is being worked on (this includes a popular PS3 scene site that was recently sold by its original owners…Winky Winky. Sometimes they mention the name of an obscure hacker based on an obvious hoax, other times they re-heat the plate and add another popular name of the “hacking” subculture as seen by the medias, for example by pretending that Lizard Squad is behind an upcoming PS4 hack. (hint: they’re not)

So let me get this straight once again: the reckZ0r PS4 hack is a fake, the Lizard Squad PS4 hack too: the popular name “Lizard Squad” has just been slapped as a sticker to an old hoax in need of a new twist, to generate more click and bait.

So what are real hackers working on nowadays for the PS4 security?

The last time we mentioned PS4 hacks was based on a statement from YifanLu, that the PS4 would probably be easier to hack than the PS Vita. That dates back to several months ago already, so has anything evolved since then?


PS4 Vulnerabilities :

First of all, the most well known vulnerability is the PS4 Webkit exploit that was disclosed in Firmware 1.76, and patched in the next PS4 firmware (which is actually the reason that exploit was disclosed in the first place). It is safe to assume a fair amount of hackers are still running a 1.76 PS4 today, looking into this. Even though the exploit has been patched, it’s become an entry point for any hacker remaining on 1.76, which could lead to additional discoveries of new vulnerabilities. These vulnerabilities could be leveraged on recent firmwares.

More than a year ago, SKFU mentioned a PS4 vulnerability in application Vidnow. I have seen little to no reaction on this. My gut feeling is that this wasn’t deemed important enough to work on.

More recently, old school psp hacker jeerum mentioned an IE buffer overflow exploit that seems to have an effect on the PS4’s browser. This actually seems to crash the PS4, even on recent system versions. This one could be a serious vulnerability, and might not have received the attention it deserves.


PS4 Hacks: work in progress

As always, most of the interesting work is done under the hood. IRC Channel #PS4Dev is probably where you’ll want to go if you think you can contribute. Of course, don’t expect hackers to share their secrets to you until you’ve shown that you’re actually bringing something to the table and that they can trust you.

Significant information is being added to the ps4 dev wiki on a regular basis. On that wiki you’ll find the information that hackers and devs are willing to share on the device. Things such as the PS4 Game Disc format, how the boot sequence works, etc…

There’s of course no magic here, the devs and hackers share what they want to share on that wiki, so do not expect to find a magical solution for your PS4 jailbreak. If anything big is happening, it is currently under wraps.


PS4 Jailbreak :

So what’s the status of the PS4 jailbreak as of now? simply put, there is no PS4 jailbreak available, as of March 2015. But there is enough activity under the hood that we know things are making progress.

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03-15-2015, 08:45 AM #11
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Originally posted by wajdi9 View Post
PS4 Jailbreak: the status in 2015

First of all I’ll shortcut the people who’ll say the word “jailbreak” does not apply for anything else than an iPhone: rules of a language evolve as people use it, and it seems jailbreak is a popular term, if not among hackers, at least among users, to talk about things as various as PS4 hacks, exploits, custom firmwares, or piracy dongles.

Although we try to regularly shut down the rumors, it seems there exists a business in pretending the PS4 has been hacked. A few websites with low self esteem have made it their business to attract clicks by pretending a massive PS4 “jailbreak” or hack is being worked on (this includes a popular PS3 scene site that was recently sold by its original owners…). Sometimes they mention the name of an obscure hacker based on an obvious hoax, other times they re-heat the plate and add another popular name of the “hacking” subculture as seen by the medias, for example by pretending that Lizard Squad is behind an upcoming PS4 hack. (hint: they’re not)

So let me get this straight once again: the reckZ0r PS4 hack is a fake, the Lizard Squad PS4 hack too: the popular name “Lizard Squad” has just been slapped as a sticker to an old hoax in need of a new twist, to generate more click and bait.

So what are real hackers working on nowadays for the PS4 security?

The last time we mentioned PS4 hacks was based on a statement from YifanLu, that the PS4 would probably be easier to hack than the PS Vita. That dates back to several months ago already, so has anything evolved since then?


PS4 Vulnerabilities :

First of all, the most well known vulnerability is the PS4 Webkit exploit that was disclosed in Firmware 1.76, and patched in the next PS4 firmware (which is actually the reason that exploit was disclosed in the first place). It is safe to assume a fair amount of hackers are still running a 1.76 PS4 today, looking into this. Even though the exploit has been patched, it’s become an entry point for any hacker remaining on 1.76, which could lead to additional discoveries of new vulnerabilities. These vulnerabilities could be leveraged on recent firmwares.

More than a year ago, SKFU mentioned a PS4 vulnerability in application Vidnow. I have seen little to no reaction on this. My gut feeling is that this wasn’t deemed important enough to work on.

More recently, old school psp hacker jeerum mentioned an IE buffer overflow exploit that seems to have an effect on the PS4’s browser. This actually seems to crash the PS4, even on recent system versions. This one could be a serious vulnerability, and might not have received the attention it deserves.


PS4 Hacks: work in progress

As always, most of the interesting work is done under the hood. IRC Channel #PS4Dev is probably where you’ll want to go if you think you can contribute. Of course, don’t expect hackers to share their secrets to you until you’ve shown that you’re actually bringing something to the table and that they can trust you.

Significant information is being added to the ps4 dev wiki on a regular basis. On that wiki you’ll find the information that hackers and devs are willing to share on the device. Things such as the PS4 Game Disc format, how the boot sequence works, etc…

There’s of course no magic here, the devs and hackers share what they want to share on that wiki, so do not expect to find a magical solution for your PS4 jailbreak. If anything big is happening, it is currently under wraps.


PS4 Jailbreak :

So what’s the status of the PS4 jailbreak as of now? simply put, there is no PS4 jailbreak available, as of March 2015. But there is enough activity under the hood that we know things are making progress.

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I think lizard Has something
I wanna believe they do and I hope they do
I haven't update my ps4 since I bought it waiting for some CFW exploit o whatever
03-15-2015, 03:05 PM #12
nice thread, no new information for me but still nice to clear things up for people.

But people are dumb these days. They cant tell if its fake or not, even tho there are a lot of hints and you could google it with the right terms in no matter of seconds. It's useless to fight against their stupidity, I tried it for iPhone Jailbreak for about 4 years and gave up.
03-15-2015, 05:21 PM #13
Cee-Caw
Error… Cat invasion!
i have to say, that im pretty happy that the PS4 isnt jailbreaked yet.
Im really enjoying it that wayDikbutttttDikbutttttDikbutttttDikbuttttt
03-15-2015, 05:30 PM #14
wajdi9
Space Ninja
Originally posted by 2paranoid View Post
i have to say, that im pretty happy that the PS4 isnt jailbreaked yet.
Im really enjoying it that wayDikbutttttDikbutttttDikbutttttDikbuttttt


but it will eventually
03-15-2015, 06:43 PM #15
Cee-Caw
Error… Cat invasion!
Originally posted by wajdi9 View Post
but it will eventually


Maybe yes, but they can wait for 1 or 2 years :p:p:p
03-15-2015, 07:15 PM #16
Chris
Former Staff
Welp, i'm currently enjoying reking noobs on my PS4 right now playing legit. Whenever a CFW is dropped ( if there is ) I'll still enjoy reking them with mods. End of story. Smile
03-15-2015, 07:44 PM #17
I have extremely high hopes that when a PS4 JB drops Sony keeps them (the people running the jailbreak) the hell off PSN.

It's extremely possible (MS does it, and multiple times in the 360's history no one on a modded console was on XBL for months) for them to secure it so well that it's extremely difficult/impossible to get around without reverse engineering the likes of which only the hardcore genius devs could do (and said hardcore genius devs probably wouldn't give two shits about allowing some 10 year olds with a USB who want to hack CoD access to PSN) which I hope they did with the PS4.

I have a strong hope that they did, because they know how wrecked PSN became. When the CFW dropped, I don't think Sony even had a system in place to ban people, because you could run homebrew all day long and mod the hell out of everything with zero consequences from Sony (games would/could ban you, but not Sony). This time, I don't think they'd be stupid enough to make that same mistake. Of course, they could be, and in that situation, PSN on PS4 will be ruined by all the kids using their 1337 CoD/GTA tools to mod online.

Also, being entirely legit just feels nice. Hopping online and knowing that you can play a nice legitimate game of CoD is a fantastic feeling. That's one thing I loved back before the PS3 was hacked, everyone could get on and play some WaW without someone using a copy+pasted savegame menu to do godmode and noclip and cheat. If people start hacking, then your rank and accomplishments just become somewhat nullified because anyone who knows/is a hacker can just become max rank immediately. Back in the MW2 pre-JB days when I grinded rank it meant something, because I knew that literally everyone online had obtained their rank legitimately (besides boosters/glitchers).

Man I could rant all day about how I don't want the PS4 to allow hackers on PSN. It NEEDS to be jailbroken (because if you buy something you should be able to use it in any way/run any code on it, period), but it doesn't NEED jailbreakers on PSN. My days of being like "lol man FUCK sony fuck activision fuck infinity ward imma hack and cheat on PSN to spite them" are over.
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03-15-2015, 08:01 PM #18
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Originally posted by ihatecompvir View Post
I have extremely high hopes that when a PS4 JB drops Sony keeps them (the people running the jailbreak) the hell off PSN.

It's extremely possible (MS does it, and multiple times in the 360's history no one on a modded console was on XBL for months) for them to secure it so well that it's extremely difficult/impossible to get around without reverse engineering the likes of which only the hardcore genius devs could do (and said hardcore genius devs probably wouldn't give two shits about allowing some 10 year olds with a USB who want to hack CoD access to PSN) which I hope they did with the PS4.

I have a strong hope that they did, because they know how wrecked PSN became. When the CFW dropped, I don't think Sony even had a system in place to ban people, because you could run homebrew all day long and mod the hell out of everything with zero consequences from Sony (games would/could ban you, but not Sony). This time, I don't think they'd be stupid enough to make that same mistake. Of course, they could be, and in that situation, PSN on PS4 will be ruined by all the kids using their 1337 CoD/GTA tools to mod online.

Also, being entirely legit just feels nice. Hopping online and knowing that you can play a nice legitimate game of CoD is a fantastic feeling. That's one thing I loved back before the PS3 was hacked, everyone could get on and play some WaW without someone using a copy+pasted savegame menu to do godmode and noclip and cheat. If people start hacking, then your rank and accomplishments just become somewhat nullified because anyone who knows/is a hacker can just become max rank immediately. Back in the MW2 pre-JB days when I grinded rank it meant something, because I knew that literally everyone online had obtained their rank legitimately (besides boosters/glitchers).

Man I could rant all day about how I don't want the PS4 to allow hackers on PSN. It NEEDS to be jailbroken (because if you buy something you should be able to use it in any way/run any code on it, period), but it doesn't NEED jailbreakers on PSN. My days of being like "lol man FUCK sony fuck activision fuck infinity ward imma hack and cheat on PSN to spite them" are over.

PSP 2004 - Has custom firmware - has access to PSN (might not actually be true anymore. I think only the vita does at this point)


Ps3 2006 - Well after the psp and sony knew that custom firmware existed. So no I don't believe they will ever bother to have a proper system in place to keep modified consoles off their network.

They kinda had a decent solution with DNAS on the PS2 but some mod chips could get around it and in most cases you could patch the disk's ID. But if the game had some form of cheat detection you would be hit with a ban anyways.
03-16-2015, 12:26 AM #19
Reaper
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Originally posted by ihatecompvir View Post
I have extremely high hopes that when a PS4 JB drops Sony keeps them (the people running the jailbreak) the hell off PSN.

It's extremely possible (MS does it, and multiple times in the 360's history no one on a modded console was on XBL for months) for them to secure it so well that it's extremely difficult/impossible to get around without reverse engineering the likes of which only the hardcore genius devs could do (and said hardcore genius devs probably wouldn't give two shits about allowing some 10 year olds with a USB who want to hack CoD access to PSN) which I hope they did with the PS4.

I have a strong hope that they did, because they know how wrecked PSN became. When the CFW dropped, I don't think Sony even had a system in place to ban people, because you could run homebrew all day long and mod the hell out of everything with zero consequences from Sony (games would/could ban you, but not Sony). This time, I don't think they'd be stupid enough to make that same mistake. Of course, they could be, and in that situation, PSN on PS4 will be ruined by all the kids using their 1337 CoD/GTA tools to mod online.

Also, being entirely legit just feels nice. Hopping online and knowing that you can play a nice legitimate game of CoD is a fantastic feeling. That's one thing I loved back before the PS3 was hacked, everyone could get on and play some WaW without someone using a copy+pasted savegame menu to do godmode and noclip and cheat. If people start hacking, then your rank and accomplishments just become somewhat nullified because anyone who knows/is a hacker can just become max rank immediately. Back in the MW2 pre-JB days when I grinded rank it meant something, because I knew that literally everyone online had obtained their rank legitimately (besides boosters/glitchers).

Man I could rant all day about how I don't want the PS4 to allow hackers on PSN. It NEEDS to be jailbroken (because if you buy something you should be able to use it in any way/run any code on it, period), but it doesn't NEED jailbreakers on PSN. My days of being like "lol man FUCK sony fuck activision fuck infinity ward imma hack and cheat on PSN to spite them" are over.


What comp said above.

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