Post: Anyone Christian?
06-20-2012, 06:11 AM #1
BAMF
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(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); I am not looking for a debate on Christianity vs Atheists/Other religions/etc.

I am just looking for the Christian users of NGU.

I am a firm believer in Christ. And I know what his grace feels like.

Please, if you're a Christian, either post here or friend me.

If you are not Christian, you can ignore this thread and I hope you live a good life. (No sarcasm)

Jesus loves you. All of you.
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FlyingIrishMan
06-21-2012, 03:50 PM #83
_Nightwing
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Originally posted by FlyingIrishMan View Post
One step at a time. If there is something pointless that causes so much hate, wars, and crime then get rid of it.

I don't see wars happening over politics, except in cases in the middle east where there was extremely corrupt dictators and what did the people do? They got rid of them. And I would argue that people who don't believe in God share the same morals or have even better morals.

And please, explain how I am ignorant for thinking something that causes pointless wars, hate crimes, murder etc. should be done away?

Or even just not have parents force a religion onto their children, let the children make up their own mind when they are older.
I guarantee that most people would continue being atheist if at the age of 18 they were first taught about religion.


You're an idiot. What (big)war since the 20th century has been caused by religion? Since the 20th century almost all wars have started because of nationalism, communism, fascism and/or racism and many other reasons NOT religion. Stop trying to justify your choice in not believing in a religion because you THINK it starts wars, it only makes you sound stupid, which most likely you are either way.

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ic0de
06-21-2012, 04:00 PM #84
AndrewU
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I dont believe "god" is who we depict him as, but as an Alien I believe he is.
06-21-2012, 04:53 PM #85
The Open Minded
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Originally posted by FlyingIrishMan View Post
One step at a time. If there is something pointless that causes so much hate, wars, and crime then get rid of it.

I don't see wars happening over politics, except in cases in the middle east where there was extremely corrupt dictators and what did the people do? They got rid of them. And I would argue that people who don't believe in God share the same morals or have even better morals.

And please, explain how I am ignorant for thinking something that causes pointless wars, hate crimes, murder etc. should be done away?

Or even just not have parents force a religion onto their children, let the children make up their own mind when they are older.
I guarantee that most people would continue being atheist if at the age of 18 they were first taught about religion.


You see, religion isn't the cause. This is the very basis of my argument. And you're missing it. You're completely ignoring my statements. Take away the subject of the war. Whether the war be started over religion, race, or morals, take that away. What are you left with? You are left with people disagreeing because they are too small to have an understanding of the other side. I'm truly not sure why you are so stuck on religion being the sole cause. The subject matter isn't the main influence here. It is inability of individuals to have an understanding of opinions different than their own. I can understand your opinion. Has religion been the subject behind many wars? Yes, it has. I understand what you're trying to get across to me. Now understand me. Religion is not the sole cause of war or any kind of disagreement. You cannot blame religion for starting a war. It is inanimate. It does not make decisions. It does not make choices. Men do. Men like you and me. So, we can either choose to be just as ignorant as the men that start the wars, or we can be bigger than that and have an understanding of things outside of our belief or opinion. I can see you are against war. So why use religion as your sole justification for being against them? Why can you not broaden your perspective and see that these wars are the result of selfish men. They are result of those who are hungry for power. Religion does not lead these men to start wars. Their ignorance does. These deaths. This hate. The disgusting state of the world is due to a lack of understanding.

And I did not intend to make any statement against your morals. I was not claiming that you as an atheist do not have morals on standard with mine or anyone elses. In my opinion morals exist outside of religion. People are capable of forming the own morals independent of their religion. Within religion, morals differ. Within all of man, morals differ.

I know I have made comments against you. Calling you ignorant. Stupid. That was wrong of me. I can never expect you to understand me when I am speaking to you that way. My goal is not to beat you down, or prove you wrong. I understand you may never understand where I'm coming from, but I will attempt to help you do so.

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06-21-2012, 05:10 PM #86
ic0de
Hurah!
You can't say anything is Bs unless you somehow have a time machine and you were there. Think about what you just said. You sound more like the people who constantly express why Jesus is the son of God. Honestly, I don't believe that many people would have went through the trouble to come up with all these scriptures just to lie about it. It is pointless. Sure, some of information is exaggerated, but a lot of it has meaning and reasoning behind it. Many people rely on life lessons from the Bible, thus helping them in their life. Point of reality, we will all know when the time comes.
Originally posted by Jake View Post
That could've happened in that time, because it was so early in time and there wasn't any technology, any advances, everything was just getting made, people were still figuring why they were on the planet, then a f*cking baby gets born called Jesus, he's the son of a man who isn't even human, who created everything? how the fuck can someone do that, it's impossible. I'm more on the scientific side. There probably was a guy called Jesus, who said he could do all this shit and he was the son of some guy, at that time anyone could've said that shit and people would've believed you, put some bandages around some guys leg who had a cut and said that heal'd you. It's fucking bullshit man. And people are raised to believe something that isn't proven. It's stupid. I have no hate against christians, if they want to spend there life believing some guy that doesn't exist, they can do that.


---------- Post added at 12:10 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:06 PM ----------

And to open minded, regarding flyingirishman, I've had my share of his ignorance as well in other threads. His argument's are very idiotic.

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06-21-2012, 05:23 PM #87
Originally posted by ic0de View Post
His argument's are very idiotic.


Says the one who's only comeback to everything was, "go get drunk".
06-21-2012, 05:33 PM #88
ic0de
Hurah!
Purely attempting to see how defensive and immature you actually really are.
Originally posted by FlyingIrishMan View Post
Says the one who's only comeback to everything was, "go get drunk".
06-21-2012, 06:08 PM #89
Just4Hax
"I will speak ill of
Seriously guys? This is just fucking pathetic at this point. Good job obeying the OP's wishes :y:
06-21-2012, 06:37 PM #90
Cubs
Next year is the year..
Originally posted by FlyingIrishMan View Post
One step at a time. If there is something pointless that causes so much hate, wars, and crime then get rid of it.

I don't see wars happening over politics, except in cases in the middle east where there was extremely corrupt dictators and what did the people do? They got rid of them. And I would argue that people who don't believe in God share the same morals or have even better morals.

And please, explain how I am ignorant for thinking something that causes pointless wars, hate crimes, murder etc. should be done away?

Or even just not have parents force a religion onto their children, let the children make up their own mind when they are older.
I guarantee that most people would continue being atheist if at the age of 18 they were first taught about religion.


no response to my comments? nothing witty to say anymore to back up your point? stare
06-21-2012, 07:48 PM #91
Originally posted by Cubs View Post
no response to my comments? nothing witty to say anymore to back up your point? stare


Where is your comments?
All I see is a post you made claiming you do not want to argue.
Judging by this post, you obviously do.

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