Post: Sony to Inspect Geohot's Hard Drive
02-11-2011, 12:20 AM #1
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SAN FRANCISCO — PlayStation 3 jailbreaker George Hotz must allow console-maker Sony to comb through his computer’s hard drive and retrieve information “that relates to the hacking of the PlayStation,” a federal judge ruled Thursday.

U.S. District Judge Susan Illston’s ruled from the bench in Sony’s ongoing legal action against the New Jersey hacker, who goes by GeoHot. The lawsuit is in connection to the 21-year-old being the first to fully hack the 4-year-old console, a jailbreak allowing it to play pirated and home-brewed games.

Hotz posted the code on his website last month, and put a how-to video on YouTube. That landed him in court here on Digital Millennium Copyright Act civil allegations. Among other things, Sony accuses him of trafficking in devices that circumvent controls meant to protect copyrighted works.

In the Thursday hearing, Hotz’ attorney, Stewart Kellar, objected to the judge’s bench order, saying Sony would be able to “observe” the contents of all his client’s files.

“That’s the breaks,” Illston said.

Hotz has already removed the YouTube video and the code from his website to comport with the judge’s earlier orders.

The judge had originally ruled weeks ago that Hotz must surrender all of his computer gear to Sony. But Kellar asked for reconsideration, and a hearing was hastily called Thursday

Illston informed Kellar that it was routine for the entire contents of computers to be searched in a bid to isolate what is being sought, as in child pornography prosecutions.

“Your honor, we’re certainly not dealing with child pornography in this issue,” Kellar replied.

Moments later, the judge responded:

“Here, I find probable cause that your client has got these things on his computer,” she said. “It’s a problem when more than one thing is kept on the computer. I’ll make sure the order is and will be that Sony is only entitled to isolate … the information on the computer that relates to the hacking of the PlayStation.”

The DMCA makes it either a civil or criminal offense to traffic in wares meant to circumvent devices protecting copyrighted works. Performing a similar hack on a mobile phone is lawful.

Sony’s attorney, James Gilliland, was quick to point out to Illston that the mobile phone is not at issue here. “The conduct Mr. Hotz has engaged in is still covered by the DMCA,” he said.

The judge also backed off on an order that Hotz “retrieve” the code from anybody who he may have forwarded it to.

“It’s information. It can’t be retrieved. It’s just not practical,” Illston said. “What would they do, Xerox it and mail it back? ”

Illston said she changed her mind because she was not clearly aware of the details in her earlier order.

“This kind of got away from me and I apologize for that,” she said from the bench.

The judge ordered Sony and Kellar to confer with each other on the parameters of where and when Hotz would allow Sony to sift through his computer. She also ordered him not to delete or modify any files connected to the jailbreak.

Meanwhile, Sony is threatening to sue [.pdf] anybody posting the code, even though Sony accidentally tweeted it earlier this week.

Sony’s attorney, Gilliland, said the Japanese console maker has been sending out an undisclosed number of DMCA “takedown” notices to websites demanding the code’s removal.

Sony is also asking Judge Illston to order Google to surrender the IP addresses [.pdf] and other identifying information of those who have viewed or commented about the jailbreak video on Hotz’ private YouTube page. The game maker is also demanding that Twitter provide the identities of a host of hackers who first unveiled a limited version of the hack in December.

A hearing on that is scheduled next month. Sony is seeking unspecified damages.


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02-11-2011, 01:09 AM #11
kimballjones
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and you get thanked for it wow.......ngu is biased towards unpremium members.
02-11-2011, 01:12 AM #12
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and you get thanked for it wow.......ngu is biased towards unpremium members.


Sorry, I read your thread, but it was so long that I didn't read to the end.
02-11-2011, 01:16 AM #13
kimballjones
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Originally posted by Ropponen View Post
Sorry, I read your thread, but it was so long that I didn't read to the end.


Lmao its cool. I just wanted to fill in everyone with a compiliation of everything PYSCHO sony is doing right now hahah They are destroying their image and going way over the top with all this..:bro:
02-11-2011, 01:19 AM #14
Steve Jobs
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He is gonna win their is nothing on his system that allows for piracy since you need LV2 to run backup so Sony just getting GeoHot in court to scare the hackers to stop hacking and putting up CFW on sites so they can quickly release FW out to say "look we are in charge again not the hackersClaps for now" haha Happy didnt you notice as soon as GeoHot was sentence to court Sony releases a new FW and hackers have halted on new CFW
02-11-2011, 01:21 AM #15
angelpig1
Little One
Wow, geo hotz is one ugly bug eyed dude.... no homo
02-11-2011, 01:24 AM #16
Sony should hire him man, Do you think he is worth any think due to him doin what he has done??. :y:
02-11-2011, 01:25 AM #17
if i was gehots i would get ma m8 to backup everything on his computer on a external hard drive then he will not get done n who will now apart from is m8 n Sony are mad simply cas they are sad that the codes got broken on a 4 year old console that is there fault n gehots is 21 n he hacked Sony lol but why its more fun if you can hack on a console more people do it than the people who play propaly and its sick but NO Sony n all of the game produces are bothered about it money money money
02-11-2011, 01:38 AM #18
Microsuck
Ich liebe NGU!
What's my opinion on this? I think Sony should suck Geo's dick and drop the charges. Scumbags.
02-11-2011, 02:19 AM #19
cdkane
Pokemon Trainer
Originally posted by MEGANOOBTOOBER View Post
Geohot didn't allow the ps3 to run pirated games and he said it himself. the one who should be sued at this point is the creator of Gaia, multiman (ect.) and the other CFW's that allow this


I think there is a bit of a loophole with the backup managers. From my understanding Sony cant really do much because they are not using any of Sonys code for it and they are not selling or making profit over it.

As for CFW, i have no idea.

I hope that Geohot wins. I understand that Sony are not happy but they should not have the control over a device like that. Imagine what would happen to Microsoft if they made PC's and only Microsoft programs worked on it...... they would be sued from every angle. Actually I think they did lose a big case like this a while back. Something to do with I.E or MS Office or something.

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