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12-29-2010, 04:08 PM
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manster
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JAILBREAK -> DOWNGRADE -> fail0verflow
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Well the big PS3 Exploit talk is now officially over at the annual 27C3 conference. All the big names in the developer scene world was there giving a one hour talk regarding Sony's EPIC FAIL
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But basically they talked about how the PS3 totally failed in security, by botching the pki implementation it became possible to calculate the keys needed to sign everything. PUBLIC PRIVATE KEYS, and replacing the "revoke-list" with super-large one (overflow) during the bootup NOR flash at startup, giving them full control of the PS3 system.
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Well the big PS3 Exploit talk is now officially over at the annual 27C3 conference. All the big names in the developer scene world was there giving a one hour talk regarding Sony's EPIC FAIL
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But basically they talked about how the PS3 totally failed in security, by botching the pki implementation it became possible to calculate the keys needed to sign everything. PUBLIC PRIVATE KEYS, and replacing the "revoke-list" with super-large one (overflow) during the bootup NOR flash at startup, giving them full control of the PS3 system.
The 360 console is now more of secure system then the PS3 after all these years!
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"The recent advent of these new exploits means current firmware is vulnerable, v3.55 and possibly beyond. It will be very difficult for Sony to fix the described exploits."
"we can now run unsigned code on an non-exploited PS3."
@KushanTheCat our goal is to have linux running on all existing PS3 consoles, whatever their firmware versions.
Our current PS3 goal: AsbestOS.pup
Myth #1: It took us 3-4 years to do this. Negative, this exploit only took a few months after we started working. We weren't trying before.
Myth #2: Sony can change keys. No, they can't. These aren't encryption keys, they're signing keys. If they change them GAMES STOP WORKING.
Clarification #3: The private keys refer to keys that Sony HQ uses. PS3s don't have these keys (but we calculated them due to the fail).
Clarification #4: the random number isn't 4, it's more like 007eabbb79360e14df1457a4194b82f71a0dc39280 (example). But it's still constant.
Note: we won't be working long-term on CFW or similar. We'll release tools and a PoC, someone else can take over. The fun part is done
Myth: Geohot -> Sony pulls OtherOS -> JB -> Fail. Fact: Slim had no OtherOS -> Geohot -> ... . Geohot started his work due to the Slim.
@You must login or register to view this content. yes, we'll release all our tools as soon as we cleaned them up in january or so.
Great news for all PS3 User's 
Console Hacking 2010 - Chaos Communication Congress
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short videos from the conference:
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbUVgxw1yWc&feature=player_embedded[/ame]
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPjd6gHY6A4[/ame]
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClnvJe4_u0Q&feature=player_embedded[/ame]
Full Video
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcbaeKA2moE[/ame]
Splitted in 3 parts:
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6CA4fqAdsc&feature=player_embedded[/ame]
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8ohOy8_XO4&feature=player_embedded[/ame]
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eag0VyRTld8&feature=player_embedded[/ame]
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Marcan @ 27C3 Lightning Talk
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGI0EnNQ5GE&feature=player_embedded[/ame]
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Originally posted by another user
"The recent advent of these new exploits means current firmware is vulnerable, v3.55 and possibly beyond. It will be very difficult for Sony to fix the described exploits."
"we can now run unsigned code on an non-exploited PS3."
@KushanTheCat our goal is to have linux running on all existing PS3 consoles, whatever their firmware versions.
Our current PS3 goal: AsbestOS.pup
Myth #1: It took us 3-4 years to do this. Negative, this exploit only took a few months after we started working. We weren't trying before.
Myth #2: Sony can change keys. No, they can't. These aren't encryption keys, they're signing keys. If they change them GAMES STOP WORKING.
Clarification #3: The private keys refer to keys that Sony HQ uses. PS3s don't have these keys (but we calculated them due to the fail).
Clarification #4: the random number isn't 4, it's more like 007eabbb79360e14df1457a4194b82f71a0dc39280 (example). But it's still constant.
Note: we won't be working long-term on CFW or similar. We'll release tools and a PoC, someone else can take over. The fun part is done
Myth: Geohot -> Sony pulls OtherOS -> JB -> Fail. Fact: Slim had no OtherOS -> Geohot -> ... . Geohot started his work due to the Slim.
@You must login or register to view this content. yes, we'll release all our tools as soon as we cleaned them up in january or so.
Console Hacking 2010 - Chaos Communication Congress
Screenshots:
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short videos from the conference:
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbUVgxw1yWc&feature=player_embedded[/ame]
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPjd6gHY6A4[/ame]
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClnvJe4_u0Q&feature=player_embedded[/ame]
Full Video
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcbaeKA2moE[/ame]
Splitted in 3 parts:
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6CA4fqAdsc&feature=player_embedded[/ame]
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8ohOy8_XO4&feature=player_embedded[/ame]
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eag0VyRTld8&feature=player_embedded[/ame]
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Marcan @ 27C3 Lightning Talk
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGI0EnNQ5GE&feature=player_embedded[/ame]
Have fun watching
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manster ; 12-31-2010 at 11:43 PM.
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01-03-2011, 01:28 AM
#74
lives2game
Do a barrel roll!
Originally posted by Adam
you act like it is so hard to sack ps3
if that was directed at me...i didnt mean to say that it was hard...infact im sure i didnt say that it was hard to hack it, i just said that there are those of us who dont know what we are doing....lol...everyone starts somewhere, you dont just wake up knowing how to do something...haha..i am pretty excited for this to be released, and to figure out how to hack my ps3...
01-03-2011, 11:57 AM
#75
iSergeant-Adam
Mario!
Originally posted by lives2game
if that was directed at me...i didnt mean to say that it was hard...infact im sure i didnt say that it was hard to hack it, i just said that there are those of us who dont know what we are doing....lol...everyone starts somewhere, you dont just wake up knowing how to do something...haha..i am pretty excited for this to be released, and to figure out how to hack my ps3...
no it wasn't directed towards you
01-03-2011, 09:47 PM
#77
lives2game
Do a barrel roll!
20.3.11 GBNF
01-07-2011, 04:15 AM
#82
Thanitos
Vault dweller
Originally posted by packarda12
These are really interesting photo's what a wierd chipset hes using i wonder what it does.
I cant wait for the supposive release next month.
Unsigned code ftw ! .
---------- Post added at 10:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:47 PM ----------
Sony are complete idiots they thought nobody would ever get far enough to cause any real damage.
Well they were wrong.
The main thing i thought was funny was the fact that they basically called the hyper visor stupid halfway through there talk.
They said it doesn't provide any sort of security there puzzled at what Sony thought they were doing.
Oh well hopefully these newly found exploits can't be patched that will f*ck up Sony a treat. !
I cant wait for the supposive release next month.
Unsigned code ftw ! .
---------- Post added at 10:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:47 PM ----------
Sony are complete idiots they thought nobody would ever get far enough to cause any real damage.
Well they were wrong.
The main thing i thought was funny was the fact that they basically called the hyper visor stupid halfway through there talk.
They said it doesn't provide any sort of security there puzzled at what Sony thought they were doing.
Oh well hopefully these newly found exploits can't be patched that will f*ck up Sony a treat. !
until the ps4 comes out with a whole overhaul and a new challenge, and all games from here on out will only work on ps4
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